32. Śivani and I Normalize Nature is Kin
32. Śivani and I Normalize Nature is Kin
I so enjoyed this conversation with Śivani from Solace and Shine.
We talked about Yoga Ecology and how the Earth is moving into trust again with human beings. We talked about remembrance and what we can do to come into remembrance with Earth.
We talked prophecy and dog stories and how important it is to normalize Nature as Kin.
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Transcript
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Lezley (00:18):
Hi folks. Welcome to the Beloved President's podcast. This is Leslie Davidson, and I am your high
priestess of Holy Shit, <laugh>. So welcome to part two of my collab with Shani from Soles and Shine.
Uh, Shani is an intuitive artist and a medium, and, um, a son Yasin on the yogic path. She has an ashram
in the Purcell Mountains in BC where they have a bakery and a farm, and they do courses. Um, today's
<laugh> episode, man, we talked about so much. Uh, we talk about yogic yoga, uh, ecology, and, um,
being indigenous to place. And we talk about writing and we talk about language and we try basically to
normalize the conversation that plants animals, land earth, are equal to beings. That we are nature and
nature as kin.
Lezley (01:16):
So what do you see happening, because I know you're a medium and I know you practice, you, you, you
practice prophecy. I don't know how to say that properly in, um, in Irish it’s “tuar” (rhymes with poor), I'm
Śivani (01:28):
Not, I'm not a crystal ball. I don't, no, I very consciously try not to see what's going to happen, but
sometimes I get shown in time space as an illusion what is already possible. Now, if we love that tolerate
to it. Love. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not like, well, this is gonna happen and then this is gonna happen. Cuz I'm
a terrible gambler, you know, if I say it's black, then it's red, and, you know, so I learned a long time ago
not to do that. But, um, that what, what my, the light beings that I work with. So I work, I work with a
series of light beings that are sort of my team. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And then I also work as a
medium for people that are non-verbal or have advanced Alzheimer's. Oh, okay. Who can't speak and I
will support their families by channeling their guides.
Śivani (02:22):
Them an understanding of what their experience is so that they can make the decisions
for their family members that are, that resonate better and not just intellectual.
Lezley (02:34):
Right. Awesome. Um,
Śivani (02:36):
Which is pretty cool. But the light beings that I work with, they, they're, they're not, they keep, they
keep saying to me that one, we're ahead of schedule. They're very happy. Yeah. They're one, they say
that, they're like, you guys are like going for it. I'm like, I'm not here to muck about, dude, I, I agreed to
the meat suit, but that does not mean that this is fun <laugh>. Um, and, and I remember what it's like to
not have the meat suit. So, you know, let's get going. Um, and do show me that, uh, that the layers of
waking up that is happening right from the crystalline dna in the waters and how that filters into the
plants actually waking up in a way that remembers, oh, we can now live in harmony with humans again,
because the humans have, I was asked to go to, in invited by the beings to go to Mexico at the end of
January, and I was told that there's a lay line between where I live now.
Śivani (03:43):
And, um, which is, you know, I reside on the unceded territory of the Ktunaxa nation in the Purcell Mountains.
And we, uh, there's a lay line that goes from here down to the base of the Santa Maria mountains down
at the base of Mexico. And so I was invited to take three things from this land here that resonate from
here, where we do all of these mantras and all of the Sadhana, you know, these practices, and then take
them down to where the spring comes out of the mountains of the Santa Maria mountains. And they
showed me specific frequencies to call in to ask to come and to ask to seed this into the waterfall so that
the waterfall, as the water went over these things, um, it would, it would resonate to wake up the DNA
of the water, then all the people drinking that water, all of the plants absorbing that water would come
into a remembrance. And, you know, when you're there and you're like, oh my God, this is gonna be so
magical and everything. Well, I, I don't think like that anymore. But, um, <laugh>, I know people like go,
go to things and they're like, it's gonna be profound. And you're like, nah, you're gonna dig some rocks
into the ground, dude, and you're gonna, and people are gonna look at you funny.
Lezley:
And that's so it's
gonna be mosquitoes and maybe you're gonna get diarrhea.
Śivani:
Yeah, exactly. You're gonna throw up for a week, you know, uh, it's gonna be great. -
Lezley (05:18):
It's gonna be, it's gonna be real.
Śivani:
Exactly. But there's two things that happened that made me go, hi. One
of them was about 20 minutes after I did what I was asked to do. Our, our, our guide, uh, a gentleman
from that area very connected to the, oh my god, the wisdom, the ecology, wisdom that this man holds
is absolutely beautiful. I could just listen to him talk all day about his relationship with the land and, um,
and the birds and the animals and the turtles. He's just beautiful. And, uh, I went for a swim in the
waterfall afterwards and received the three rocks from the waterfall that wanted to come here with me
and then to Arizona in October, uh, which is my next stop. And then, uh, he turned to me and he looked
at me and he went, I was here yesterday and this did not feel like this yesterday. This feels like when I
was on mushrooms. Something is different. Uh, this is really weird. He said, like, there's, I feel like I'm in
a trance. He used the word trance. I feel like I'm in a trance. Like I was on mushrooms or something. This
is really weird. Something has changed. And I was like, Hmm, that's interesting.
Śivani (06:41):
Good to know that you feel that. And then within 24 hours there was an earthquake here. Oh. Um, just
20 minutes from here. We never get earthquakes. We are not in earthquake territory. Um, and 20
minutes from this property into the heart of the mountains, there was a 3.8 earthquake within 24 hours.
Um, and it was, it was really profound. And now they're like, and now in October, the last half of
October, you have to go to Sedona and, and do the same thing. And I'm like, okay,
Lezley (07:17):
I love that. I love all of that. Yeah. Like, I think, I think this message is important to get out too, that
these small, small acts are profound. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, do you know what I mean? You don't
have to save the whole earth. Do you know what I mean? Like, every action towards any being. Mmhmm.
<affirmative> is helping the whole, like your backyard is the earth. Everything that you do in your
own
Śivani:
Exactly. Exactly. Is, is, and You don't have to fly to places. Right. And do this. Right. And if I didn't, somebody else would've. There's no, there's more than just me capable of doing these things. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> mm-hmm.
<affirmative>, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it just happens that I really like Mexico, so I'm like, yo,
okay, let's go to Mexico.
Lezley (08:08):
Sweet. Yeah. Well you wanted to do it sweet
Śivani: (08:10):
<laugh>. Yeah, exactly. But it's not like, it's not me that has to do this work. If I am unable or unwilling to
step up, there are other beings that are capable and will be asked to step up. And finally somebody will
say yes. Yeah. I'm just, I'm just, I'm, I'm in for the, I'm in for the adventure.
Lezley (08:30):
Do what you're called to do. Like, yes. Awesome. Yeah. Like great. I think it's, it's great. It's what's
needed. I have a question about, um, like, I keep getting the sense that, um, what role do you feel that
indigenous peoples on Turtle Island in particular are playing for this? Or now what is, or do you know, is
that something that you would know? Is that none of our business <laugh>, do you know what I mean?
Like, cause I just keep getting the sense over and over that like, there's a partnership, there's a
partnership, there's a partnership that mm-hmm. <affirmative> that needs to happen. But I don't, I don't
know what that means.
Śivani (09:16):
I can't, I can't say that I have answers or I understand. You know, there's gonna be many different
people that have different perspectives and different understandings. Um, as a white woman living in
North America, born in New Zealand, but only by about three generations before that, Ireland and
Scotland, you know, like I've had to really understand. It's like, well, hold on. As again, I, I reference
Robin Wall Kimmer because I love to her, um, her definitions of the term native versus indigenous mmhmm.
<affirmative>. And I think that there is an incredible body of wisdom of right relationship with
spirit and right relationship with land that has been carried through the lineage of native communities.
That has been completely and utterly disgustingly, uh, engaged with by the colonialism, uh, white
mentality. I'm not saying skin color, I'm saying mentality of colonialism, patriotism, um, uh, patriarchy.
Uh, but white mentality is not a, a, a skin color, but it is predominantly experienced by the privilege of
that mentality has come through that lineage. -
Śivani (10:44):
But there's a, as Robin wa Kimmer expresses, there's a difference between Native, which means your
bloodline can be traced to holding this body of wisdom in Right. Relationship with spirit and land. And
indigenous. And indigenous is not limited to Native. And, you know, this is a very tricky subject for, for
many people. And as a yogini, learning, listening, worshiping the land where I rest, where I'm karmically
bound to, I did not choose to come to this place, this place called me. It is my responsibility to learn and
remember how to come into right relationship. Now, whether that comes through Vata and Tantra,
whether that comes through the Celtic lineage, because the Celtic lineage is, and, and the Scottish
lineage is very much in same right relationship and resonance the same bandwidth as re of re resonance
as native mm-hmm. <affirmative> because it's about not about, uh, humans being in relationship with
other humans of like, you know, the indigenous and the native blah.
Śivani: (12:00):
It's about humans in relationship with spirit and with land and with land as spirit. Um, and I, I think we
gotta start looking at each other and, and looking at where we stand and what our hearts can resonate
with. Because the trees are not looking at your skin color. <laugh>. The trees are looking at the
resonance of your heart, you know? Yeah. The trees themselves have said to me, when a being walks
barefoot on our tummy with thank yous on every heartbeat, then they sow gold into the land with every
steps. You know, this is what the Ma Ponderosa has said to me. When, when my two dogs went
missing, I was out morale picking like 30 K out into the back, back, back of the Purcell Mountains
where there was a wildfire a couple years ago. And they, they the, it was a mom and like a four month
old puppy.
Śivani (13:10):
And this, this, this mother dog, you know, she had born her little puppies into my hands. And I just loved
these, these beans, the puppy dogs. I did love the puppy dogs with everything I got. And, uh, they, they
went off and they chased something. I thought they were with my husband. My husband thought they
were with me. They, they must have chased a deer or something, and they were missing. And I left my
sweater there, I came back the ne the next day I left a new sweater there so they could feel that my
scent was, um, reactivated. And I, I told the trees there, I will come back. I will come back, I will, you
know, I hired a psychic. And they were like, they're still alive. And I'm like, great. And, um, after about
four days of going back and forth, which is a long way to drive back and forth every day out there, um, I
finally, and, and I feel that this is, this was the point of the entire experience.
Śivani (14:06):
I finally got to my knees. I finally was just like, I've done everything humanly possible. And if I am a divine
being in communion with the divine presence of Gaia, then it's not just me that has to, to, to do this. So I
took my tears, my ugly tears, my swearing like a sailor, uh, <laugh>. I can get a little feisty, um, my, my
swearing like a sailor, like, you fix this. Like you've gotta find these dogs. Like if you're like the, the, uh,
the fungus is like going through the whole forest and I believe that you could talk to each other and the
birds, I know you can talk to the birds and I know the birds will listen to you. And I know you can get
messages to the animals. And I know that this is like alive. If you want me to stop living like you're not
alive, then you have to start talking to me.Śivani (15:08):
And I took my tears and I poured them, like rubbed them into the bark of the ponder my Ponderosa.
And I like, like lost it at the foot of her. And I just got this really strong, really strong frequency of a
message that said, you're right, but if we find your dogs to write our story. And I'm like, I'm not a writer.
I, I barely have any command of the England language. I'm like, I'm dyslexic. I can't spell grammar's
terrible. And, uh, they were like, you have to write our story. If you, you have to write how you've come
into remembrance of Right relationship with land. If we find the dog, if we can get the dogs. And I was
like, right, you find the dogs. I'll write your book. You know, in that spicy kinda way. So the next day we
went to a farmer's market, sold a bunch of bread, came home exhausted, and I said to my husband, let's
just go out once more.
Śivani (16:11):
Um, you know, I've, I've cried so much this week. Let's just go out once more. And we were driving out
and about a kilometer before where we lost them. Uh, as we were driving down the road, these two
little dogs just came around the corner and started running towards the truck. And my husband stops
the truck and like, before he stops the truck, I'm like halfway out the door, like falling out of the truck
and the little puppy runs away cuz he's, she's scared. Um, but the mama re recognized it was me. And I
just fell to the ground in the middle of the road. And then the mama dog just cried. And she cried and
cried as she ran to me. And she just jumped into my arms. And then the puppy realized that it was fine,
and she jumped into my arms too.
Śivani (16:57):
And, and then that was 2019. And I'm like, now I gotta write this book. So I'm in the last stages of writing
Land’s Breath as a, as a, as part of my agreement. And to do that, I had to stop teaching for about a year.
I had to stop teaching and I had to go into tree school and listen. And I would sit under the Ponderosa
and I would start writing this story. And the transmission of the story of what was important for the
humans to go through, to learn, to remember, came through in this entire story. And I'm hoping it'll
come out next year sometime. Yes.
Lezley (17:41):
That's beautiful. I can't wait to read it. That's like,
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Me neither
Lezley (17:46):
<laugh> This is the kind of thing, like this is, this is why reading Robin Wall Kimmerer was so important to me
and so revolutionary is because it, it's not out there. Like, it's, it's not out there. Like this is not
information that is being shared regularly and stood for and, and normalized in, in our society. Like it's
mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's not. And I, it was like a homecoming to me. So mm-hmm. <affirmative>,
please share that. I'll tell everyone I know that it's there, you know, because we need, it needs to just
the repeated message and like last, like, let them love you. Let the trees love you, let the earth love you,
like mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that's, they're constantly communicating their oneness with us.
Constantly, constantly, constantly.
Śivani (18:36):
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. There's, I'm
Lezley (18:39):
Glad you got your dogs back.
Śivani (18:40):
Oh, I did,
Lezley (18:42):
I did. I'm glad. What are your dogs' names?
Śivani: (18:46):
The mom was Tuppins and the baby was Bubbles. Bubbles, Tuppins and Bubbles. And the, -
Śivani (18:54):
**TW**
Hi folks, this is just a trigger warning to let you know that there's a little bit of puppy grief that happens.
Um, nothing major or graphic, but I won't submit you to Beloved Puppy Loss without your permission. So
skip to 22:35 if you're not here for it. Um, Shivani does share the story with the context of grief as a tool
for spiritual growth and wisdom. But it's your choice. And I don't wanna spring it on you.
Śivani(19:23):
The, that was in the spring and then in the fall that year they went missing again because it was hunting
season and there's carcasses laid about from the hunters, and of course the dogs can smell it. And, and
they went missing again. And then that, uh, that night it was, it was such a perfect storm that night that
they went missing about 10 30 at night. Bubbles came back, but Tuppins didn't. And the next morning I
came down with such an acute air infection. I actually had to go to hospital and have a general
anesthetic and, and have surgery on my ear. And when I came back, um, I still, I, I could hardly walk. So I
took a walking stick and I was walking around trying to find Toughens. And when I sat in my living room,
actually, I've never told this story before, so I don't, I'd trust why it's coming through now, but Umin
gone cuz she was like my child.
Śivani: (20:29):
Um, but Bubbles was there. And when I would call Tuppins, Bubbles would for her mom and I could feel
something bubbling up inside of me. And I told my husband, please take our son and don't come back
for a couple of hours because I'm about to lose my shit. And I sat on the floor. I still had general
anesthetic. I, I could hardly hear out of one ear. I was really sick and my dog was missing again. And I put
my hands on the floor and I closed my eyes and I could viscerally like not just imagine, but viscerally my
body went through the entire experience of birthing a child. And in my, in this visceral experience, it was
in Ireland with the nuns of birthing a child and this child being taken from me before I could see it. And
that's what Toughens leaving brought forth out of me was this collective grief of the children, of the light
being taken by the religious, by the power over.
Śivani (21:40):
And it was, there's, I can't think of another example except maybe losing my son that would have on the
resonance level bought that debt of despair and grief, um, to the surface for me. And then within a
couple of days, I got very strong intuition that, um, they were at a carcass and the wolves, wolves came
and bubbles, uh, Tuppins would've told bubbles to go and would've would've tried to protect her puppy
and, and was killed. And so she showed me what happened to her. But really there's that, that seed of
memory would've stayed inside of me if I had not had to go through that experience. So all of these
experiences we're having, they're to stimulate memory so that we can not hold it anymore because
that's the weight we're carrying this grief of, of these different things. So yeah. That's so tough. Tuppins
isn't with us anymore. Um, but Bubbles is my little Bubblitas. And she's a joy as you would imagine,
Śivani (22:58):
Yeah. She's a border collie. She's a pure bread border. Col. So she is high energy land is always teaching
us, whether it's through the animals or through the trees or through the birds, there's always
communication going on if, if we have the ears to listen -
Lezley (23:21):
Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. I, um, I have a need and a desire to share this depth of
love that I have for nature, trees, animals, everything that I've never felt before. It's always been
something that I've hidden, because the response that you get when you, when you say, oh, well, like
plants and trees are just, and animals just as valuable as people, and people are like, what? And you're like,
okay, I'm gonna keep that to myself from now on.
Śivani (23:55):
No, no, please don't. Please.
Lezley (23:57):
I know. Like, but
Śivani (23:58):
That's, sing it loud,
Lezley (24:00):
It's necessary. It's, this is this is what's happening right now and it's what's needed.
Śivani (24:10):
Yeah. But, and even, it's so funny in writing's Land’s Breath, um, because it's written from three different
paradigms of consciousness. You have somebody who's asleep trying to wake up. You've got somebody
who's awake, and then you've got, you have the land, uh, herself as a voice. And so what's really been
fascinating for me and really fun, is to not only connect to the frequency of that paradigm that they're
functioning from, but writing it in that way. In what letters do you capitalize? How do you speak of Raven
without, without unification of the raven? You know, if you're asleep, you would say that Raven, if
you're awake, you would say Raven. Like Raven, you're part of your family. Right.
Lezley (25:16):
So True,
Śivani (25:17):
True. So then I'm trying to write in the book, like these different levels of awareness to the languaging,
because English is such a rudimentary, clunky, objectify object. Objectified object. Yeah. Objectifying
language. Like Yes. How in the world are we supposed to shift consciousness into a realm that is sentient
and connected when our mother tongue literally is objectification mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like how
we've got to start actually speaking differently.
Lezley (25:53):
Y you're right, you're right. The one advantage that English has is that it can be non-gendered. Like
that's, that's the only advantage,
Śivani (26:02):
Like French or Spanish, where it's, it's a male letter and it's a female, you know, bucket, it's like Really?
Lezley (26:10):
Yeah. And that can't do, like, that has to affect your brain. It has to affect your, your ability to perceive
like it has to. So yes, talking differently I think is, um, is, is necessary. I think that's really interesting that
you saw that and recognize that as you were writing. That's really, uh,
Śivani (26:31):
And then you give it to an editor and they're like, why is this Capitalized? What's, why do you not have the, and I'm like, just leave it Alone, <laugh>. Yeah. But this does not make sense. And I'm like, no, it doesn't. And you know, maybe you
don't wanna publish it and that is totally fine. But I have to, my, my contract is with Ma Ponderosa,
my, my contract is not with a publisher. Right. That is trying to, to feed it to the humans at where the
humans are at. My, my contract is to Ma and, and just trust that it'll be created and it, and it will come
out. And then in 20 years, well, it'll go where it's needed. It, it will be there.
Lezley:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.
For sure. Love that. Can't wait to read it.
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Śivani is a a Medium, Intuitive Artist, and Sannyasin on the Yogic path. You can find out more at her website the links below: